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riontel ([personal profile] riontel) wrote2013-01-21 08:31 pm

Music appreciation

I just discovered an astonishing thing about myself. [livejournal.com profile] avva posted a video of REM's "Losing my religion" which somebody doctored to play in major scale. I love that song so I listened to the video. Then I read people's comments how it sounds too upbeat. Then I listened to the original version. Then I first read the description of the differences between major and minor scales (didn't understand a word, naturally) and, second, found a couple of videos on YouTube where people illustrate the difference on various instruments. Then I gave up because I can't hear any difference whatsoever. I mean, we already established with Lena that I can't tell the difference between adjacent notes but up until this moment I didn't realize that was such a crucial thing. I think I know how color blind people feel.

[identity profile] vgramagin.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Я тебе сейчас все объясню так, что ты запомнишь навсегда:

просто: в миноре третья ступень отстоит от первой на малую терцию, в мажоре - на большую
очень просто: мажор звучит весело, а минор - грустно

Кстати, я послушал мажорный вариант - как-то оригинал мне больше нравится

[identity profile] riontel.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
А по-моему они одинаковые.

[identity profile] spamsink.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think I know how color blind people feel.

Я тебе сейчас все объясню так, что ты запомнишь навсегда:

просто: у красного света длина волны 650 нм, а у зеленого 510 нм.
очень просто: красный как закат, а зеленый - как листья.

Ну и поможет это дальтонику?

[identity profile] vgramagin.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Уж от кого-кого, а от тебя не ожидал...

[identity profile] spamsink.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Нет повода для сарказма. У меня тоже амузия, хотя и в более легкой степени.

[identity profile] sereshka.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
у меня тоже такое чувство. Вернее, странное ощущение неуловимой разницы. Я слышу разницу в мелодии в некоторых переходах, но не воспринимаю ее как существенную для восприятия песни.

[identity profile] ikadell.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
If that never bothered you so far why should it start bothering you at this point? I cannot imagine a situation in life where you would be harmed by failing to distinguish major from minor on hearing. It, probably, takes something from perception but so does inability to run at certain speed or ignorance of baseball rules. Whatever. If you already have music that you like or dislike, that means you have some significantly developed sense of music and you are not in any way musically-challenged.

Having said that, if you feel that you totally cannot go on without, I can when we meet show you a trick to distinguish which does not involve music hearing or knowledge in physics.
Edited 2013-01-22 02:36 (UTC)

[identity profile] a-lazy-legend.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Trust me, it don't bother her one bit. Her tone deafness affects me more... can't take her anywhere nice! :)

[identity profile] ikadell.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Take her to the Met! ´Tis nice...

[identity profile] riontel.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
You can take me anywhere nice, you just don't get a guarantee of appropriate behavior ;)

[identity profile] riontel.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't bother me, but it might finally explain why I fall asleep at Philharmonic, and can't listen to music that doesn't have words with it, and why the only melody I can hum is a funeral march :)

[identity profile] ikadell.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, that is something. Can you hum the funeral march? That´s minor.

[identity profile] riontel.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I have no idea which scale I hum it in, but people recognize it well enough to get annoyed with me.

[identity profile] ikadell.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Must me minor, least they would fail to recognize it

[identity profile] a-lazy-legend.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Aaaah, i just listened to it for a few seconds... Once i got the convulsions under control I hit stop. It's soooo weird.

[identity profile] riontel.livejournal.com 2013-01-22 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
See, we can both be tortured by music but not at the same time.